Re: [DEHAI] : Asians are there to stay !!

'hardy' P. Tesfazghi (petros@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Fri, 16 May 1997 15:56:23 -0700 (PDT)

Selam seb dehai and Issac

Thank you very much, Issac, for forwarding the mail.

This is one of the things that disturbed me while I was in Kenya. Every
day you can see a new, modern and Europianized highrise, going up in the
city of Nirobi. At the same time you see their money loosing its value by
50% within two years. You see all the shiny ("wlad seb zmesla") modern
cars, tourist minibuses, safari trucks, full of foreigners and a happy
Kenyan driver, while you see that most Kenyans, who live in the worst
conditions, in areas infested with thieves (who would cut your hand to
take your watch-- if you don't cooperate) black Kenyans who cram into one
shade about 10 people.

Why is this? I blame it partialy on the people and partialy on the
government. If you ask who owns the newest modern semi-skyscraper you get
an answer like, " oh that belongs to the vice president, that one to the
prime minster.." so on. This is not a rumor, it's open to the public and
it's ok in Kenya for the trade minster to own the bigest imprt export
company. Also I believe the government has sold the country by letting
foreigners invest freely. I think it should have given priority to Kenyans
firs, like the Eritrean govt is trying to do. If you open up Eretrea to
investors as much as they want to, they could make Asmara look like
Chicago overnight (ok over some years) but you could end up with some kind
of colonial Eritrea where the Eritreans become slaves of the investors,
systematicaly. Besides I like Asmara the way it is.

The people of Kenya(certainly not all of them) also share the blame. Kenya
is a very rich county, naturaly. It has a very rich soil and good rain.
Now, keep in mind the struggle of our parents and grand parents (I don't
think I need to go into details of the hardship they faced, doing every
thing they could and as if that is not enough they wait on the rain, if it
rained they hope it doesn't hail, and if things are so far so good, boom,
battle could take place right on the sight, or the man could be killed
going to where ever his land is). In Kenya, the land is there, the rain is
there (check), peace? very abanduntly. Where is the farmer? In Nairobi
employed for shlingi 100 a month or spending his days on the sun in Uhuru
park, supporting 9 wives all over the country side (exaggerated a little).
A survey showed that most preferd to live in the town doing very low
paying job than farming and having a better income outside the city.
Eritreans get jealous when they see the rich lands that cover the most
parts of Kenya. Eritrea and Eritreans could learn a lot from the situation
of Kenya and other African countries.

Who owns Nairobi? Foreigners, minsters, Indian(Asian) Kenyans and
Habesha;-) Havesha is following the tracks of the Indians. When I came to
Nairobi there were a few (but very rich) buisnessmen there. By the time I
left lots of people ( including young people with no work permit) had
started owning matatus (mini buses,-- hey, before Hbesha they were owned
by IndiKenyans). Like the racist guy below said I was first surprised when
I saw sigh, sign, or was it siQ ("whatever"--BD), in a general's uniform,
and the hat, accompanying the president. There are a lot of them close to
power, and Kenya is a bribery troubled country. Therfore what the guy has
said could be true. He is also right when, in his ugly words, he says that
they need to be proud of their culture. I don't know if they are or not
but this is a big advise most of us need, in order not to sell our selves
to others.

Kenyans are the most peaceful people I know; very kind. perhaps they are
to peaceful and too kind. Perhaps that's why they can't figure out how to
live discently while others exploit and make fortunes in their country.

petros T.
Kenya lover.

p.s. In honor of Mzee Ugutu, Msyoqa, Mutungi, Waqa, Sawe, Robin, Steve,
Jackey and all the good people of Kenya (including Mzee Moi) I
would like to sing a special song to the dehai comm.( join in
and sing along any time you feel like it)

Jumbo Jumbo Kenya
Abari yako musuri sana
**********************
Kenya yetu hakuna matata........


On Fri, 16 May 1997, Isaac F Zama wrote:

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> Dehains, what do you all think?
> > Subject: ASIANS ARE THERE TO STAY
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > I found this deranged confession on another list. What's your take on
>
> > this? If you wish to reply to him, you will need to access this page:
>
> > http://www.rcbowen.com/kenya/newsgroup/messages/605.html
> >
> > ====
> >
> > Re: ASIANS ARE THERE TO STAY FOREVER IN KENYA.
> >
> > Posted by Meghji Patel on April 30, 1997 at 10:04:37:
> >
> > The recent attack by your tribalist leaders-Ken Matiba and Raila
> Odinga who
> > is a communist like his father, the late Mzee Jaramogi Oginga Odinga
> who
> > died a bitter and humiliated man because of his political short
> sightedness
> > and low IQ.
> > We Asians are here in Kenya to stay and even our future generations
> will
> > continue to live in Kenya because you African Kenyan are very stupid
> and
> > its a fact that we do live comfortably on your sweat due to your
> > primitavity right from your so called political leaders,
> interllectuals,
> > Students, Women, Farmers etc.
> > It's so sad that Kenyan Africas have not even culture or tradition
> which
> > you are proud of.For example we Asians don't marry with you niggers
> and
> > this shows that we are superior race and our customs is civilised
> compared
> > to your barbaric and backward one.You don't have anything apart from
> > adoring foreign cultures off which even you don't manage to cope with.
>
> > We Asians came to Kenya as railway-builders but since we are smarter
> than
> > you silly Africans, we managed to aquire your citizenship(which is
> cheap to
> > aquire) and in the process we managed to entrench our roots in
> beautiful
> > Kenya and became rich and also a force to reckon with.
> > Your leaders right from the head of the government, ministers,
> Opposition
> > leaders like Matiba, Odinga, Shikuku, Orengo, Kibaki, Wamalwa (who
> recently
> > received a bribe from our man) all work with our blessings and infact
> we do
> > conspire together to exploit you Kenyans. Asians do sponsor government
>
> > ministers and other influential figures in their trips abroad in
> return of
> > protecting our businesses.
> > To prove further that we are superior than nigger Kenyans, your own
> > government does not trust you and thats why we do contol the security
> of
> > the President and the country in general.Our Asian men are in the
> police,
> > Special branch, C.I.D, Armed forces and oyher kinds of security forces
>
> > which are unknown to majority of you Kenyans.At times i do wonder why
> a
> > country which claims to be led by patriots, would allow its own
> security
> > and economy to be in the hands of non-natives?
> > In uganda, Idi Amin chased us and confiscated all our wealth and
> thanks to
> > the late President Kenyatta (though he controlled us very much) who
> welcomed
> > us in Kenya with both hands.Now once again we are back in Uganda
> whereby
> > all our properties have been returned to us and we are in controll
> under
> > the wise leadership of President Yoweri Museveni who has agreed to
> work
> > closely with us.
> > Many will find this article provoking, racist or otherwise but i am
> just
> > expressing facts being an inner circle of the game.Like the question
> of
> > having more than one nationality is a matter of fact and its not just
> sheer
> > speculation. We Asians its true that we hold more than one
> citizenship, yet
> > your own government allows us to occupy positions within public
> > service.Another thing is that we Asians are very much organised and
> united
> > that incase of African Kenyans try to distabilise us through civil
> > disturbances(as many are planning to do), we are capable of defending
> > ourselves militarily while you Africans cannot.Incase of such an
> incident,
> > this is the time Kenyans can see our true colours because our temples
> which
> > you Kenyans don't have access to will come to know what goes on inside
> (we
> > do keep secrets, while you Africans don't, even you do sell your blood
> and
> > women to us)
> > Finally Kenya cannot do without Asians and you Africans should not be
> > jelous and instead blame your leaders because everything we do,we does
> with
> > their full knowledge and blessings.HIS EXELLENCY DANIEL ARAP MOI is a
> very
> > good leader and he should rule Kenya much longer because he has
> protected
> > us very much and in return we protect him too.
> > My advice to you Africans is that : Educate yourself and keep your
> culture
> > and traditions instead of being culture prostitutes. Tell you men not
> to be
> > easy goers and cheap aand should change their mentality and behaviours
> and
> > be patriots.If they cannot,probably women who are oppressed, voiceless
> and
> > downtrodden can make good leaders.Our Asian women like Indira Gandhi,
> > Benazir Bhutto, Corazon Aquino, Golda Meir,Khalida Zia, Hanan Ashrawi
> and
> > others have been competent while in Kenya wife-beatings is the order
> of the
> > day.
> > We were also pleased by His Exellency President Moi when hw brought
> more
> > than 3000 Asian lawyers to come into Kenya and civilise your judicial
> > system and also teach Africans how the rule of law works. Thanks also
> to the
> > Chief Justice Majid Cockar who is an Asian and doing a good work.
> > : Long live Asians!
> > : Long live President MOI !
> > : Down with Kenyan Africans and their LOW IQ !
> > : Long live African Slaves !
> >
> > Meghji Patel
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